A 2018 Retrospective with Meghan and Lis

It’s been a long time, but we’re back! In this episode we catch you up on what each of us has been up to, then we discuss some of our main themes and takeaways from a year that felt like three years. From being brave to letting go, we lay it all out there and set our intentions for 2019. Happy New Year all, and enjoy!

Show notes

• Meghan and Lis are back after a few months away!

• Meghan catches us up on life and work in San Diego

• Lis clues us in to living “the horse life” in New Mexico

• “Just listen to the wind”

• Finding the ways we want to live

• If it feels good, do it. If it hurts, don’t.

• Recognizing and accepting familial differences

• Opening up to the generosity and love of others

• Art, coffee, and chocolate in Madrid, New Mexico

• The anxiety of isolation... or isolating anxiety

• Codependency reemerges

• Meeting people where they’re at (reprise)

• What Lis has been doing for work

• Takeaways from 2018 and themes for 2019

• Don’t forget to please Rate and Review us on iTunes. We’ll be sure to shout you out on our next episode!

Resources

• Travel Like A Local Retreat

• Finding Purpose - our episode with Kofi Aidoo

• Cultivate Good Character - Lis’ blog post about doing the work and not being perfect

Credit and Thanks

• Intro music “Frunken Rogg” by Wired Ant, used under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 Unported License

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What Sense of Self Remains - Catch Up with Meghan and Lis

We’re back and more well-traveled than ever! In today’s episode Meghan and Lis dive into Lis’s summer travels and current location-independent life. We also dig into all of the implications that come along with shedding old anxieties and routines and stepping into new versions of ourselves we discover along the way. It’s a reunion not to be missed. Enjoy!

Show notes

• Meghan and Lis are back!
• Lis has been traveling “all the heck over”
• Balancing life and work while traveling
• Letting go of anxieties, schedules, and routines
• Finding ways to normalize experiences
• Letting go of the former parts of yourself
• Codependency, self-compassion, and survival mode
• Trusting our intuition
• “Are you trying to go out and meet new people?”
• Emotionally divesting from those who leave AND being the ones who leave
• Don’t forget to please Rate and Review us on iTunes. We’ll be sure to shout you out on our next episode!

Resources

• Wild Wild Country
• The Ghost Town Lis went to over the summer
• Templeton the Rat’s Song
• Facing Codependence: What It Is, Where It Comes from, How It Sabotages Our Lives - by Pia Mellody
• Self-Compassion: The Proven Power of Being Kind to Yourself - By Kristin Neff
• Scarcity: Why Having Too Little Means So Much - By Sendhil Mullainathan and Eldar Shafir
• Codependency No More Podcast
• Episode 7: “We Just Get Sad Sometimes” (in which we discuss friends having babies)

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• Intro music “Frunken Rogg” by Wired Ant, used under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 Unported License

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Holding on to the Delight and Wonder - Catch Up with Meghan and Lis

In this episode Meghan and Lis catch up on what’s been happening in our worlds. We dive deep and discuss our fears around not living up to the labels in life and not making the “best” decisions we can. We also discuss listening to our instincts, and reflect on Meghan’s journey around the perimeter of the US. Finally we talk about the endearing characteristics of the people around us. It’s a lot, but it’s great. Enjoy!

Show notes

• Lis makes a big decision!
• Meghan returns to San Diego
• We discuss being a nomad versus putting down roots
• Attaching to a label (or not)
• Being afraid of making a mistake
• Reflections on a place that brings you peace and calm
• Hearing the Yeses
• Letting go of the planning
• Processing the instincts
• Reflections from Meghan’s perimeter tour of the US
• Fighting to keep heart
• Don’t forget to please Rate and Review us on iTunes. We’ll be sure to shout you out on our next episode!

Resources

• You Always Have an Exit - Our episode with Gigi
• Nomadtopia
• Nomad + Spice
• Temi’s episode
• Cris’ episode
• Susan’s episode

Credit and Thanks

• Intro music “Frunken Rogg” by Wired Ant, used under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 Unported License

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Allowing Your Mind to Tell You the Truth — Interview with Ranata Reeder

In this episode we speak with marketing and communications professional and host of the #IQUITPODCAST, Ranata Reeder. She shares with us how we can live more authentic lives by being truthful with ourselves, and also tells us about recognizing microaggressions, gracefully planning a work exit, and putting your health before your paycheck. Lastly, we get to understand her missions of empowering and uplifting women while also spreading emotional intelligence and cultural competence. We know you’ll love listening to her as much as we did. Enjoy!

Show notes

• Lis works a lot and gets ready to celebrate her birthday
• Meghan’s status from the road
• A BIG announcement about the show
• Introducing Ranata Reeder!
• Getting back on track
• “The more we do, the less time we have to sit back and think.”
• Starting the #IQUITPODCAST
• What is a microaggression?
• Allowing your mind to tell you the truth
• Gracefully planning your exit
• Making your health more important than your paycheck
• Purging everything that serves you to become the person you want to be
• Spreading emotional intelligence and cultural competence
• Don’t forget to please Rate and Review us on iTunes. We’ll be sure to shout you out on our next episode!

Resources

• Janice’s episode
• Diana’s episode
• The #IQUITPODCAST
• “You are not a measurement of your productivity.”

Credit and Thanks

• Intro music “Frunken Rogg” by Wired Ant, used under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 Unported License

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You Need People Who Inspire You — Interview with Kit Whelan

In this episode we talk to the one and only Kit Whelan! Kit is a digital nomad, conference founder, podcast co-host, and all-around awesome person who talks to us about her path to a life of purpose. We learn the importance of cultivating community, talk about the tricky balance of protecting that community, and even discuss aging into a life adrift. It’s an episode we’ve been waiting for, and we know you’ll feel the same. Enjoy!

Show notes

• Lis gets a new client
• Meghan drops off the dog and gears up to leave Atlanta
• Lis has a huge (but obvious) revelation
• Introducing Kit Whelan!
• The importance of mentors
• A conference is born out of frustration
• Giving yourself the time and space to do nothing
• Balancing family
• Cultivating a community
• Hobbies versus communities
• Protecting the community
• Aging into nomad life
• Identifying as a digital nomad—or not
• Don’t forget to please Rate and Review us on iTunes. We’ll be sure to shout you out on our next episode!

Resources

• Nomad + Spice podcast
• 7in7 Conference
• Nomadtopia Podcast

Credit and Thanks

• Intro music “Frunken Rogg” by Wired Ant, used under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 Unported License

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The Most Human Human in the Room — Interview with Jen Kane

Our episode today features the one and only, Jen Kane. She is a marketing and social media consultant, author, and so many other things we don’t have the room to mention, who schools us on accepting life as it is, exploring many different paths, parenting, dealing with chronic pain, and the power of being fully present. Her experiences have made for one really rich life, and we hope listening to her wisdom will give you as much to think about as it did for us. Enjoy!

Show notes

• Lis gets a new client
• Meghan and the dog
• Introducing Jen Kane!
• Learning the many shades of Jen, including certified forklift operator, social media consultant, erotica writer, and much more
• Keeping up with interests and passions
• Accepting a life with chronic pain
• On life with a high EQ
• Redefining success
• Working with your programing and changing it
• Parenting with chronic pain
• Discipline and being a ‘self care ninja’
• Looking ahead and exploring
• Don’t forget to please Rate and Review us on iTunes. We’ll be sure to shout you out on our next episode!

Resources

• Minnesota Interactive Marketing Association
• Chronic Pain Recovery: A Practical Guide to Putting Your Life Back Together After Everything Has Fallen Apart - Jen's book on chronic pain
• Act powerful, be powerful - research Jen mentioned from Amy Cuddy

Credit and Thanks

• Intro music “Frunken Rogg” by Wired Ant, used under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 Unported License

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Taking One Step Outside — Interview with Anna Lundberg

Today Meghan and Lis talk with success coach and business strategist, Anna Lundberg. Not only does Anna share with us her own story of stepping outside the conventional, but she also clues us into the importance of reimagining success, shares tips on tapering down our need to achieve, and offers expert advice on addressing the fears which hold us back from taking the big leaps. Your hosts left sufficiently therapized and feel confident you will too!

Show notes

• Meghan starts a new routine to set her days up for success (a la Eileen’s advice)
• Lis explores writing down some limiting beliefs (a la Melissa’s advice)
• What Lis and Meghan were like as kids
• Introducing Anna Lundberg!
• Going off the beaten path
• Noticing the disconnect
• Why reimagine success?
• Letting go of the need to accomplish
• Addressing the fear
• Giving your mind space to think
• The health effects of living your own path
• Don’t forget to please Rate and Review us on iTunes. We’ll be sure to shout you out on our next episode!

Resources

• Anna’s YouTube Channel
• One Step Outside
• The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People - By Stephen Covey
• Facing the Fear: What are you afraid of? - Anna’s article on fear
• Anna’s Success Audit
• One Step Outside on Facebook
• Anna on Twitter

Credit and Thanks

• Intro music “Frunken Rogg” by Wired Ant, used under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 Unported License

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Appreciating Your True Self — Interview with Janice Chaka

In this episode, Meghan and Lis welcome introvert, career coach, and world traveler Janice Chaka! She shares her adventures in the world of careers and travel, as well as her experience being an introvert and coaching them to professional success. We learn about the importance of recognizing your own personal truth and how we can all cope in this extravert-centric world, no matter where we fall on the spectrum. This is certainly an episode you don’t want to miss!

Show notes

• Lis visits the monks
• Meghan’s thoughts on momentum
• Introducing Janice Chaka!
• Defining introversion
• Introversion around the world
• Being an introvert at work
• One thing an introvert can do to get better at networking
• On traveling… and hating people
• Working two full-time jobs while traveling?
• The physical and mental effects of not being yourself
• How to treat freelancers
• Discussing “Where are you from?” and “What do you do?”
• Don’t forget to please Rate and Review us on iTunes. We’ll be sure to shout you out on our next episode!

Resources

• Being a Bourgeois Bohemian - Jonee’s episode
• The Career Introvert
• The Traveling Introvert podcast
• Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking - By Susan Cain
• Halo Effect

Credit and Thanks

• Intro music “Frunken Rogg” by Wired Ant, used under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 Unported License

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If You Can Change Your Mindset, You Can Change Your Life — Interview with Melissa Monte

[Content warning: Sexual assault, disordered eating]

Meghan and Lis chat with fellow podcaster and host of Mind Love Podcast, Melissa Monte! Melissa shares her incredible journey through coping with multiple sexual assaults, living in and escaping from a toxic relationship, healing after eight years of bulimia, and finding herself and her way in this world. She explains how everything starts in the mind, and if we’re able to understand what’s there and move forward from it, we can do anything. Enjoy!

Show notes

• Diana is coming to visit Lis
• Meghan (and Lis) reflects on old episodes
• Introducing Melissa Monte!
• From a charmed childhood to experiencing major life trauma
• Reaching rock bottom, realizing need to apply lessons
• On landing in jail for someone else’s crime
• Getting out of a VERY zany boyfriend situation
• Bulimia and the healing process
• Identifying self-limiting beliefs
• Living in the Age of Awareness
• A discussion on men, sex, and the #MeToo Movement
• The way you see other people is a reflection of yourself
• Don’t forget to please Rate and Review us on iTunes. We’ll be sure to shout you out on our next episode!

Resources

• Mind Love Podcast
• Lydia Lee’s episode
• Happiness and Other Small Things of Absolute Importance
• Life hacks are part of a 200-year-old movement to destroy your humanity
• Helen’s episode
• The 5 Love Languages - By Gary Chapman
• The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People - By Stephen R. Covey
• The Mastery of Love - By Don Miguel Ruiz
• The Power - By Rhonda Byrne
• The Bulimia Help Method: A Revolutionary New Approach That Works - By Richard Kerr,‎ Ali Kerr,‎ Catherine Liberty

Credit and Thanks

• Intro music “Frunken Rogg” by Wired Ant, used under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 Unported License

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You Have to Believe You Deserve It — Interview with Eileen Webb

Today we welcome friend and esteemed colleague Eileen Webb to the show! Eileen tells us not only how to use laziness to fit an enormous amount of activities into our lives, but she also shows us how connecting with the belief that we deserve more from ourselves can bring a great deal of wellness and goodness to our lives. Talking to Eileen is always enlightening, and today’s episode does not disappoint. Enjoy!

Show notes

• Meghan’s doing great, after a visit with former guest Ada Powers!
• Something kinda zany happens to Lis
• Introducing Eileen Webb!
• “How do you do all this stuff?”
• Minimal viable farming
• Creating the optimal space for working and living
• Believing you deserve time for you
• How are spaces a reflection of us?
• On the aggression of cities
• “Being in nature is profoundly healing in a quiet way.”
• Some thoughts on being an animal lover
• Don’t forget to please Rate and Review us on iTunes. We’ll be sure to shout you out on our next episode!

Resources

• Check out Eileen’s website
• Former guest Diana Sonis’ episode
• Expectancy Value Theory

Credit and Thanks

• Intro music “Frunken Rogg” by Wired Ant, used under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 Unported License

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Diving Into Every Moment — Interview with Niamh Aspell

In this episode we have the privilege of talking with world traveler Niamh Aspell! Not only does she share with us some of her best stories from her life of travel, but she also explains to us why and how she keeps the good times rolling, even when things don’t seem as good as we’d like them to. We know you’ll be as inspired by her passions as we were!

Show notes

• Meghan is doing fine
• Lis gets over her cold and realizes she’s not a “loser”
• Introducing Niamh Aspell!
• An introduction to dragon boating
• Some notes on living in NYC
• A journey from Dublin to NYC
• Stories from Argentina
• Studying for the DELTA while getting married abroad
• “How do you know when to leave a place?”
• Keeping a sense of self when traveling
• Tales from being at the northernmost and southernmost points of the Americas in the same year
• Time for a moose story
• Don’t forget to please Rate and Review us on iTunes. We’ll be sure to shout you out on our next episode!

Resources

• Your smartphone is making you stupid, antisocial and unhealthy. So why can't you put it down? - the article we mention at the beginning of the show

Credit and Thanks

• Intro music “Frunken Rogg” by Wired Ant, used under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 Unported License

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The More Secure We Are the Better the Journey Is — Interview with Erica Hanna

On today’s show we get the chance to sit down with the founder of Puke Rainbows, Erica Hanna! Not only does Erica wow us with some pretty amazing stories–including working with Ellen AND Prince–but she also discusses her advocacy for body positivity and survivors, as well as what it means to be vulnerable in visible ways. Her insights (and glow) will lift your spirits and widen your perspectives. It’s a show not to be missed!

Show notes

• Lis has a cold
• Meghan catches us up on ‘the dog’
• Introducing Erica Hanna!
• “You’ve won Emmys?”
• Directing a video with Prince
• Advocating for survivors and body positivity
• “There’s no before and after picture for mental health.”
• Some thoughts on being vulnerable
• Thoughts on balancing personality with business
• Shifting into the coaching phase
• Don’t forget to please Rate and Review us on iTunes. We’ll be sure to shout you out on our next episode!

Resources

• Puke Rainbows
• 50 Cups of Coffee
• Visual Diet Diversity Facebook Group
• Muslim Girl
• The Five Minute Journal

Credit and Thanks

• Intro music “Frunken Rogg” by Wired Ant, used under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 Unported License

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Cultivating Our Collective Human Potential — Interview with Ayla Benjamin

In our first episode of 2018, we have the honor of chatting with co-founder and strategic director for the Yoga For All Movement, Ayla Benjamin! Not only do we get to hear Ayla’s journey to her life’s work, but we discuss approachable wellness basics, the importance of mind and body awareness, and slowing down to start where you are. It’s the perfect way to start off the new year, if we do say so ourselves. We know you’ll agree. Enjoy!

Show notes

• Looking back at 2017, and ‘Hello’ to 2018
• Meghan shares a big resolution announcement!
• Introducing Ayla Benjamin!
• From sustainable food to volunteering in prison
• How food affects our whole being
• Basic wellness principles
• Bringing yoga to underserved populations
• Becoming comfortable in our own skins
• Moving from the mind to the body
• An active aggression towards what feels good
• Working to just slow down
• Starting where you are
• Don’t forget to please Rate and Review us on iTunes. We’ll be sure to shout you out on our next episode!

Resources

• Yoga for All Movement
• Ayla's Personal Site
• Ayla's Instagram
• Awe Sum Organics
• Awe Organic Body Care Products
• Mark Stephens

Credit and Thanks

• Intro music “Frunken Rogg” by Wired Ant, used under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 Unported License

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Holiday Hang with Cristina Toledo

Our last episode of 2017 is a special holiday treat as we bring back former guest Cristina Toledo to catch up on the year! We get to hear all about her 2017 adventures and dive into discussions about managing self-inflicted pressures, staying anchored even when adrift, and sorting through the pressures and obligations of holidays. It was simply a delight to hear Cris’ insights yet again, and we have no doubt you’ll enjoy them as much as we did!

Show notes

• It’s our last episode of 2017!
• Meghan reflects on the importance of community
• Cristina has returned!
• “Who are you trying to impress besides yourself?”
• Getting back in the swing of it
• Staying anchored
• Being in others’ space
• Structure versus Freedom
• Travel exhaustion
• Being home, and being the person “they” want you to be
• Doing work you enjoy doing, and your schedule as your anchor
• On family pressure around the holidays
• Navigating family and politics
• Standing up to those than have changed your diapers?
• Adjusting to seeing adult relatives as peers
• Obligation versus desire
• Don’t forget to please Rate and Review us on iTunes. We’ll be sure to shout you out on our next episode!

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• Intro music “Frunken Rogg” by Wired Ant, used under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 Unported License

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Living in a Society Profoundly Shaped by Tech — Interview with Sara Wachter-Boettcher

Today’s episode features content strategy expert, author, and friend Sara Wachter-Boettcher! We get the chance to talk with her about her latest book, Technically Wrong, in which she breaks down the implications of a major lack of diversity and moral compass in the technology industry. We also get to have a discussion on separating yourself from your work—and how to keep doing stuff, even when the path ahead seems rocky. Here’s hoping you love it as much as we do!

Show notes

• December 13… an interesting day in the world
• Lis as a moment on the NYC Subway
• Introducing Sara Wachter-Boettcher!
• What IS Technically Wrong?
• A discussion on the gatekeeping of the tech industry
• It starts with the people, culture, environment
• Ethics and Facebook?
• Technology as a utility
• “2017 was a weird year”
• Separating the things you create from yourself
• Don’t forget to please Rate and Review us on iTunes. We’ll be sure to shout you out on our next episode!

Resources

• Technically Wrong - Sara’s latest book
• Content Everywhere - Sara’s book for content strategists
• Designing for Real Life
• Sara’s Google Talk Episode
• “Cat Person” - from The New Yorker

Credit and Thanks

• Intro music “Frunken Rogg” by Wired Ant, used under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 Unported License

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Paying in Security What You Gain in Freedom — Interview with Susan DeFreitas

In this episode we have the honor of talking with author and editor Susan DeFreitas. Not only do we get to hear about how she’s fought for her career in the arts, but we get to have some amazing discussions about security vs. freedom, artists as “culture jammers,” and some of the safety nets and privilege that contribute to our narratives. This one definitely ended too soon. Enjoy!

Show notes

• Meghan settles in to a warm place AND adopts a dog!
• Lis prepares to return to the East Coast then shares something she hates
• Introducing Susan DeFreitas!
• The great gamble: “I’ve paid in security what I’ve gained in freedom.”
• Sharing all of our best tools
• Sales as service
• Seeing the vulnerability in others and ourselves
• Making a career in the arts
• “Artists are culture jammers”
• Breaking down the enormity of the tasks at hand
• A discussion on safety nets
• “Talent is just a place to start”
• Don’t forget to please Rate and Review us on iTunes. We’ll be sure to shout you out on our next episode!

Resources

• Hot Season - Susan’s latest book
• Rene’s Adrift on Purpose episode
• Booze and Pot in Teen Years Lessen Life Success
• Brené Brown
• Prescott College - Susan’s alma mater
• “Follow your bliss and the universe will open doors where there were only walls.” Joseph Campbell

Credit and Thanks

• Intro music “Frunken Rogg” by Wired Ant, used under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 Unported License

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Getting Unstuck from the Largeness of It

In today’s episode Meghan and Lis dive into a discussion highlighting—and breaking down—accomplishments they never thought would come to pass. The chat covers many topics from Lis finding her way in the professional world to Meghan exploring the world. In each case, major change comes down to small steps forward, taken one at a time. Listen in for inspiration for your own transformation!

Show notes

• A Black Friday snafu
• Thanksgiving adrift
• Meghan gives Lis homework!
• The big challenges we’ve overcome including:
  • Lis working for herself for 8+ years
  • Meghan and Lis travel alone
  • Lis moves solo for the first time
  • Meghan talks about becoming a vegan (because of course she did)
  • Meghan has eradicated yelling from her life
• Realizing all great feats start with small steps
• Don’t forget to please Rate and Review us on iTunes. We’ll be sure to shout you out on our next episode!

Resources

• Jonee’s episode

Credit and Thanks

• Intro music “Frunken Rogg” by Wired Ant, used under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 Unported License

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Having a Drink on Purpose — AOP Happy Hour!

Today we are pleased to present to you our very first 'Having a Drink on Purpose' Happy Hour! Join Meghan and Lis as they discuss their journeys being adrift, questions from listeners, and other random thoughts all while having a drink or few. Cheers!

Show notes

• Lis has a drink because Susette said so
• Meghan has decay in her walls
• Living with dudes
• “Breaking News!” —  A dude story
• “Progress towards what?”
• One thing we think we’re bad at
• You know what we hate?!
• Acknowledging privilege
• Meghan takes a lap through ‘Sex in the City’
• A discussion on dating
• “We’re too damn nice to each other!”
• A peek into Lis’ dating past
• On dudes with cats, and dogs
• “One thing you wish people understood about you?”
• Don’t forget to please Rate and Review us on iTunes. We’ll be sure to shout you out on our next episode!

Resources

• Susette’s episode
• Tina’s episode
• Cris’ episode
• I Hate Men - ‘Ask Polly’

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• Intro music “Frunken Rogg” by Wired Ant, used under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 Unported License

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Crossfit for the Mind — Interview with Tina Dietz

Today Meghan and Lis have the honor of talking with fellow podcaster and entrepreneur Tina Dietz! We dig deep into topics including calming the mind, expanding our capacities, and finding your voice. We also hear how Tina found her life’s calling at the fair, and discuss the friending habits of purple squirrels. You definitely don’t want to miss this one!

Show notes

• Meghan keeps it real!
• Managing a life adrift… or trying to
• Introducing Tina Dietz!
• “How do you deal with the anxiety?”
• More confidence = more crises?
• “This whole 30 days to build a new habit bull$h*t? Stop that!”
• Expanding your capacity
• Creating an intentional community
• Unleashing your voice
• Tina finds the meaning of life at the fair
• Being present to the gap… and more mountain references!
• Are you a purple squirrel?
• Where does art fit into the career path?
• Taking care of mechanics first
• Finding courage through curiosity
• Don’t forget to please Rate and Review us on iTunes. We’ll be sure to shout you out on our next episode!

Resources

• Start Something Creative Business Solutions
• Evolutionary Business Council
• Vista Mundo project
• Tina’s talk on finding her voice
• The Charisma Myth

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• Intro music “Frunken Rogg” by Wired Ant, used under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 Unported License

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We Do a Pretty Damn Good Job — Interview with Jen Myers

This week we ‘put things in perspective’ as we talk with prison activist and consultant Jen Myers. Not only do we get insight into Jen’s own time in federal prison, but we hear all about how she’s using those experiences to create change and hope for others. This is definitely a special episode from which we walked away feeling moved. Here’s hoping you feel the same!

Show notes

• Lis fires a client!
• Meghan reflects on privilege
• Introducing Jen Myers!
• From Midwest girl to federal prisoner
• Understanding more about being a prison activist and consultant
• Hosting a TEDx in prison
• Adjusting to life in prison
• A discussion on people having an experience
• Mothering in prison
• “The whole paradigm of the system has gotten upside down”
• Helping women re-enter society post prison
• Prison counseling on Dance Moms
• Prison for trans people
• What happens now that marijuana is legal?
• Key takeaways for all our listeners
• "Orange is the New Black’s" strengths and weaknesses
• Don’t forget to please Rate and Review us on iTunes. We’ll be sure to shout you out on our next episode!

Resources

• All I Know I Learned in Prison - Jen’s Ignite San Diego talk
• Trafficking the Good Life - Jen’s book
• R.I.S.E. to Empower - Non-profit Jen co-founded
• TEDx Donovan Correctional - Tedx Jen helped organize
• Jen’s clip from Dance Moms
• I lived “Orange is the New Black” -- Now I’m Going to Watch it Again - Jen’s article

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• Intro music “Frunken Rogg” by Wired Ant, used under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 Unported License

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